🎧 Episode Companion · Episode 44
Italy Β· Family Travel

Italy Wasn't Perfect. That Was Kind of the Point.

Kim's nine-day family trip to Italy on points and miles β€” the great redemptions, the things that went sideways, and the stories her family will probably tell forever.

Kim and her family at the Trevi Fountain in Rome
Kim's family in Rome.

Quick Takeaways

The Trip Almost Fell Apart Before It Started

Kim's family of six needed to position from Indianapolis to JFK before their flight to Rome. There was a 7 a.m. option and a noon option. They chose noon.

The 7 a.m. flight left. Their noon flight β€” along with the later options β€” was delayed and eventually canceled. Suddenly the goal wasn't maximizing points. It was getting six people to Italy.

They found American Airlines availability from Indianapolis through Chicago to Rome for 30,000 miles per person. Kim and Chris each booked three tickets, and the canceled positioning flight resulted in about $1,300 back. Air France also ultimately refunded the miles from the original JFK–Rome awards without charging the cancellation fee.

β€œWe know that when you have an international travel flight, you should get there significantly early, maybe even the day before.”

β€” Kim

What Kim Would Do Differently

Give an important international award flight much more breathing room. Kim knew the conventional advice before this trip; this was the trip that made her stop gambling on it.

The β€œFree” Rome Hotel That Surprised Everyone

The hotel had already caused plenty of stress before the trip because of a delayed opening. Once the family finally arrived, though, it became one of Kim's favorite surprises.

They had three rooms and weren't relying on meaningful Hyatt status there, but Kim couldn't say enough about the service. When they left for the airport at 1 a.m., the hotel had six breakfast boxes waiting β€” including a vegetarian one specifically for her son β€” without Kim even asking.

Kim with her daughters during an evening in Rome
An evening out in Rome.

Rome: The Colosseum Tickets Were Worth the Work

The original flight disruption cost the family their first set of Colosseum underground tickets. Chris went back to work and managed to secure another set directly for their last day in Rome.

The family's direct tickets cost about $80 total, dramatically less than the third-party tour prices Kim had been seeing. More importantly, the underground experience ended up being one of the highlights.

Kim and her children inside the Colosseum in Rome
Kim and all four kids inside the Colosseum.

β€œThat underground tour was so worth it.”

β€” Kim

One of the Best Rome Days Was on Two Wheels

The family also spent a day riding e-bikes through ancient ruins outside central Rome before visiting the catacombs. It was active, memorable, and something Kim said she'd absolutely recommend.

Their travel setup was smart too: portable fans for the heat, crossbody bags, and tiny collapsible cups they could use at Rome's drinking fountains.

Kim's family riding e-bikes on an ancient stone road near Rome
E-biking through the ancient roads outside central Rome.

Sometimes Maximizing Value Means Spending $10

After one particularly packed public-transit experience in Rome, Kim had reached her limit. So when she learned there was an air-conditioned train to Pompeii with assigned seats for about $10 more per ticket than the crowded option they had considered, the decision became very easy.

They explored Pompeii without a formal tour. Chris loves history, so he ended up explaining what they were seeing as the family moved through the site. Kim still thought Pompeii was absolutely worth the trip.

And Then There Was the Boat Day...

Kim's family smiling together aboard their private boat in Italy
At this point, the boat day was going exactly according to plan.

This was supposed to be one of the splurges of the trip: a private boat day around Capri. At first, it was even better than Kim expected. The boat that arrived was an upgraded, more luxurious version of what she'd thought she booked. Music was playing. The kids were lounging and dancing. The weather was beautiful.

Then they started idling near the Blue Grotto.

One by one, almost everyone started getting seasick. Robbie threw up over the side. They tried swimming to land for relief, only to discover the rocks were incredibly sharp β€” and Chris ended up with bleeding feet.

Eventually they made it to a restaurant, exhausted, after a very expensive boat day that had gone nothing like Kim pictured.

β€œIt's not about it being perfect.”

β€” Kim

And that's where the story changes. Kim realized that this disaster wasn't ruining the trip. It was becoming part of it.

β€œThis is probably the one story that they retell over and over again.”

β€” Kim
Kim enjoying the private boat day with her family in Italy
The imperfect boat day still became one of the family's most memorable stories.

Good to Know: Their EES Experience

Kim's family waited about 90 minutes entering Rome. On the trip home, their Paris connection included another EES checkpoint. They hurried straight there and still waited roughly 45 minutes. With about a two-hour connection to start, they reached the gate with only around 20 minutes before boarding.

That's one family's experience, not a universal connection-time rule β€” but it changed how Kim thinks about connecting through Europe with children.

Air France Business Class β€” and Another Lesson Learned

Kim and one daughter flew home in Air France business class while Chris and the other kids were in economy. Her daughter loved it, and Kim was very happy to have the business-class seat on the way home.

But after experiencing the split herself, Kim said she probably wouldn't divide the family that way again. It's another example of something that can look great on paper but feel different once you actually try it.

Kim's daughter in an Air France business class seat
Air France business class on the trip home.

The Part of the Trip That Stuck With Kim

At the end of our conversation, Kim wasn't talking about the value of her hotel rooms or whether she'd maximized every point. She was talking about perfectionism.

β€œI have lost some of my perfectionism with traveling with this trip because I realized even without being perfect, you create a perfect trip.”

β€” Kim

The positioning flight went wrong. They lost a day. The boat day turned into a seasickness adventure. They didn't see everything they'd planned to see.

And Kim came home wanting to travel more.

A Note from Katie

This is one of the reasons I love post-trip conversations. The itinerary tells you what someone planned. The conversation afterward tells you what actually mattered.

There are no perfect strategies, and apparently there aren't many perfect trips either. Sometimes the parts that go wrong are the parts everyone keeps talking about.

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